Mental rust and Sluggish Cognitive Tempo

Returning to competitive chess after a long absence can be incredibly frustrating. (A short absence can actually be helpful, for reasons I am not sure I fully grasp.) 

Kamsky
Gata Kamsky, the aforementioned top-rated player in the US, challenged for the world championship in the 90s but set aside the game and went to law school. He returned to the board and shows flashes of his extraordinary talent and understanding of the game, but appears to lag far behind the world’s best in terms of opening preparation. He also plays very slowly, getting himself into terrible time pressure.

This all feels familiar to me (except of course the parts about talent and understanding). After skipping most of the 90s, I returned with a greatly diminished tactical facility and a general tendency to get WAY behind on the clock. This year, I was essentially inactive from February through mid-June, and now find those symptoms have manifested themselves again.

These things are generally chalked up to “mental rust.” There’s an interesting similarity between this effect and a disorder called Sluggish Cognitive Tempo, a form of attention deficit disorder that commonly displays in symptoms which are the opposite of classical ADHD, according to Wikipedia:

Instead of being hyperactive, extroverted, obtrusive, and risk takers, those with SCT are passive, daydreamy, shy, and “HYPO”-active in both a mental and physical way. Their demeanor is sluggish as if “in a fog” and logically they also process information more slowly. A key behavioural characteristic of those with SCT symptoms is that they are more likely to be lacking motivation…. Those with SCT symptoms show a qualitatively different kind of attention deficit more typical of a true information input and output problems such as memory retrieval and active working memory.

A person with ADHD is likely to have enhanced spatial and visualisation abilities – critical to good chessplaying; those with SCT appear to process logical information very slowly – like Kamsky (and me) running constantly short of time at the board. The “working memory” mentioned above is like computer RAM – it’s the space in your brain where you hold and process a bunch of stuff simultaneously – again critical for chess success.

SCT apparently stems from problems in the prefrontal cortex. I would be curious to know whether research has been done on the physiological basis for “mental rust”, i.e. lack of practice in specialized cognitive activities.

21 Responses to “Mental rust and Sluggish Cognitive Tempo”


  1. 1 Globular June 21, 2007 at 12:07 pm

    Any good drugs for SCT? :)

    Besides beer?

  2. 2 liquideggproduct June 21, 2007 at 8:07 pm

    As far as the short absence helping? Maybe it’s akin to strength training, where you’re supposed to give your muscles a day to recuperate between workouts.

  3. 3 Derek Slater June 21, 2007 at 8:09 pm

    Yes, so, if you’re not playing well, take a day off and drink beer.

  4. 4 James Cox September 29, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    SCT is a permanent problem, in as far as my personal experiences are concerned. Someone with SCT would display differences in symptoms after breaks or after considerable experience. It’s a “life-long” disorder, so to speak. In other words, playing chess would always be a problem. SCT patients would exhibit an inability to see the big picture and it wouldn’t matter how much they practice. A person wouldn’t just be great at playing chess for years, then take a long break and be slow at it. They would always be slow at it, and never really get it.

    I tell you all of this because of my own personal experience with SCT and my research of it.

  5. 5 James Cox September 29, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    Correction, “Someone with NOT SCT would display differences in symptoms after breaks or after considerable experience.”

    Sorry about that…

  6. 6 Derek Slater September 29, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    Hi James – thanks – not my intention to suggest that rusty chessplaying is exactly like SCT. Just that when you *are* rusty, you show some characteristics that are reminiscent of SCT.

    Interestingly, this post is by far the most popular over the lifespan of this blog due to continual traffice coming in off of Google. That suggests to me that sluggish cognitive tempo is perhaps under-researched and there’s a dearth of public information.

  7. 7 Kelly April 29, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    I have a daughter, age 11 who displays all the symptoms associated with SCT. Are you guys doctors? I’m looking for advice on what types of accomodations can be made by her public school next year ??

  8. 8 Derek Slater May 1, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    Hi Kelly. No doctors here. (We have a lawyer or two but they mostly won’t admit it.) Hope you can track down some useful information elsewhere – last I looked in Google it seemed to me that good SCT information resources are not as plentiful as you might hope.

  9. 9 AnneMarie May 31, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    Scott, you wrote the article above on SCT? You made a significant error in explaining SCT vs ADHD. In fact, you stated the exact opposite.
    Your statement “A person with ADHD is likely to have enhanced spatial and visualisation abilities – critical to good chessplaying; those with SCT find those abilities compromised.”
    This is incorrect, the actual definition is
    ” Those with SCT have difficulty with verbal retrieval from long term memory, but may have greater visual spatial capabilities”

    Just thought I’d clarify. We have a daughter with SCT, NOT ADHD.

    :o)
    Cheers.

  10. 10 Derek Slater May 31, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    Hi AnneMarie – looks like you’re right. Not sure how I misread that originally. It’s the speed of logical processing that appears impaired (according to wikipedia anyway). I’ll make a correction. Thanks – Derek

  11. 11 Kathy September 30, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    So if a child makes straight A’s in school, but cannot stay focused, has little to no motivation, and can be very lazy have this disorder? A lot of what is described here fits my daughter who was diagnosed with ADHD but doesn’t have the hyper at all. She does struggle with staying focused, she does not like reading and scores low on reading comprehension and is horrible at spelling (I know doesn’t make sense with the straight A’s but it’s how it is.). Math on the other hand she is a whiz at! I really want to get to the bottom of her issue before just going in and changing her medication for the third time in one year.

  12. 12 jaybird March 6, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Well, what fun. I found your website and I am intrigued. “Ressemblences” seem related to the popular difficulties with ADD spectrum and other impairments involving executive function in the brain. Voila! fun with another bunny trail!
    FYI about SCT. It is on a contiuum with ADHD at one end and SCT on the other; see also the ressemblence with tortoise and hare. It is also akin to ADD inattentive type, with a few less bells and whistles, if you know what I mean.
    For the record you are accurate with the metaphor of computer processing speeds; it doesn’t mean the computer is broke, obsolete, or inferior, it just means, well, dial up compared to broadband. One could get lost in ressemblences, I am very aware of that.
    I also saw remarks from others on the blog about evaluation and treatment and yes, there is but jump through all the hoops with the screening tools AND clinical evaluation tools AND the developmental history AND the school history. Combined give you a pretty decent starting point as well as benchmarks to measure improvement with the two primary treatment modalities necessary: RX and counseling. Ok well, that was fun. I will visit another day!

  13. 13 Doubt That April 29, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    I would be very leery of labels. In my life I can tell you I rode the special school bus, started school a year late, and scored a year behind in my age category on a standardized IQ test as a child. I did show strong spatial abilities, i.e. was good at drawing when others drew scribbles. I had to take special math, reading, speech classes etc. through elementary school. As a result of my own intense efforts I eventually caught up with my peers and have probably surpassed many of them. I’m now a CPA. I earn six plus figures. Everyday I treat my brain like something to be bowed before my will and that goddamnit I can be smarter tomorrow than I am today. I believe it all depends on how much mental anguish you are willing to endure. If you’re just going to give up and say oh I’ll never improve, well you’ll probably get exactly that, nothing. I’ll never have the suborbital IQ of a Chris Langan, I realize that, but I don’t believe people are nearly as limited as they think.

  14. 14 Giovanni May 2, 2009 at 10:40 am

    About that last post, SCT isn’t related to a low IQ at all. In fact, i have SCT and an IQ of 135. The main symptons are the lack of attention and motivation for doing things which don’t imply any kind of mental challenge. I’ve looked everywhere for medication to keep me a bit more motivated or “awake” but found nothing. Can anyone help me out here? By the way i’m 18 and i’ve had this problem my entire life.

  15. 15 Alok August 26, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Excellent scientific publication on the difference between ADD and ADHD. By the way, SCT is a sub-type of ADD.

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1474811

    SCT issues are related to under-developed working memory. Your working memory is a scratch pad for holding temporary information required for processing. People with ADD/SCT have a diminished ability to hold and process information. As a result, they fall behind and seem “lazy”,”slow” or as just being plain inattentive. Lack of attention is a SYMPTOM of the underlying cause. Your inability to do things fast enough is conveniently labeled as inattention. For a lay person, such pedantic distinction might look like a play on words, but using the wrong label for your condition can take you down the wrong treatment path and lead to more frustration.

    Best way to treat SCT, is work your brain in situations that use
    working memory. (http://www.cogmed.com).

    Use prescription pills for severe cases. Otherwise double up on your fish oil pills.

  16. 16 Don September 1, 2009 at 12:17 am

    29 years old and finally found whats wrong with me…SCT and yes, it appears to be unresearched…

  17. 17 Don September 1, 2009 at 12:40 am

    Ive always tried to figure out what the problem was with myself. I walk around with a head that feels like it weighs 200 pounds. My job is sitting at a desk staring at a computer and making calls all day…this is absolute torture for me. I find myself staring at the screen doing absolutely nothing for 10 mins at a time because im deep in a day dream. Im constantly yawning and sometimes zone out so bad i almost fall asleep. I have to literally get up from my seat and walk around. If its not visually stimulating, im not interested…not matter how hard I try.

    During conversations with people I sometimes stumble and cant seem to find the right words. I’ll say something but ill use a wrong word. Its like my mouth moves and my brain shuts off.

    In a public setting, i am shy at first and my natural instinct is to stay quiet, especially when meeting new people…although I’ve been told i am a people person, outgoing, and have great social skills…this is because i force these skills.

    If im ever in a conversation about a particualr subject i find it very hard to retrieve information on that subject…if i read an article about a particular subject and am then asked to explain that article, i will remember very little…unless i am 100% interested and into what im reading.

    my life outlook and motivation are like a rollercoaster…one minute im fine and am motivated to try new things (seek out a new career) the next minute its all doom and gloom and i feel very anxious, almost claustrophobic.

    When i speak i barely use expression…mostly monotone. When people speak to me i have to really try hard to listen to them, because at any given moment i will completely space out.

    The most trouble i have is finding a new career…cant seem to settle on one thing and focus all my energy towards it. One day i want to do this, the next day its that. what i do know is that i need to work with my hands…i need to see what im doing…there needs to be a beginning and an end, task and project oriented. I am not lazy by any means, but if im not interested in what im doing, it will take me longer to do.

    I also do process information slower than i should. i find if someone instructs me how to do something, it will take a long time for me to get it. If i do it myself the first time, i get it right away. Almost like i need to set patterns to remember things.

    Anyone reading this please be aware that I am self diagnosing. i dont know what i have but am realizing its not normal and has to be some sort of learning deficiency. I am 29 years old and have had this all my life, ive just started paying attention to it recently and when i did some research, many signs point to SCT. If anybody shares the same symptoms as what ive just provided, please let me know.

    • 18 Resende September 15, 2009 at 2:23 pm

      Dom, im just like you. My mind is completely in slowmotion. I think a lot, but in a wrong way because I can’t process well what people are talking to me and can’t process fast a good answer to give them. My memory, long and short, are completely crap. So I look like an idiot when im in a conversation.

      But im not a completely retard, I achieved many important things using my mind, like contests that required creativity or memory. But these things happened just when I could use the “super focus” of ADD. Another way to do good jobs is spending MUCH time thinking about it, like a rumination, I get good output but it take many days.

      Drugs don’t change me, I already taken Ritalin and many SSRIs. They changed just my mood, not my information processing. Nowadays im trying to start with brupopion, to attack my comorbid dysthymia. Maybe it do something to my sluggish mind, I hope.

      If someone want to discuss about it, contact me: resendeATgmailDOTcom

      • 19 xxx October 4, 2009 at 12:09 am

        I am a college going student, I am pretty normal, and a good student ,i have a good grasping power. Yet i lack motivation to do anything, I am socizlly withdrawn as well. It dawned on me when i got through the auditions for a competition yet i backed out though i had a good chance to win because i am good at it.

        Are there chances of my being a SCT patient?


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